{"id":2443,"date":"2016-05-06T16:49:06","date_gmt":"2016-05-06T13:49:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/islamidavet.com\/asura\/?p=2443"},"modified":"2016-05-06T16:50:03","modified_gmt":"2016-05-06T13:50:03","slug":"imam-musa-kazimasin-munazara-ve-ilmi-tartismalari","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/islamidavet.com\/asura\/imam-musa-kazimasin-munazara-ve-ilmi-tartismalari\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0130mam Musa Kaz\u0131m(as)\u2019\u0131n M\u00fcnazara ve \u0130lmi Tart\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130MAM MUSA KAZIM(AS)\u2019IN M\u00dcNAZARA VE \u0130LM\u0130 TARTI\u015eMALARI<\/p>\n<p>Y\u00fcce Ehl-i Beyt \u0130mamlar\u0131 aleyhimusselam ilah\u00ee ilimleriyle kendilerinden sorulan her soruya do\u011fru, tam ve soran ki\u015finin anlayaca\u011f\u0131 \u015fekilde cevap veriyorlard\u0131. Herkes ve hatta d\u00fc\u015fmanlar bile onlarla ilmi tart\u0131\u015fmalara girselerdi kendi acizliklerini ve o y\u00fcce ki\u015filerin geni\u015f ve kapsaml\u0131 ilimlerini itiraf ediyorlard\u0131.<br \/>\nHarun Re\u015fid, \u0130mam\u2019\u0131 (a.s) Medine\u2019den Ba\u011fdat\u2019a getirerek onunla tart\u0131\u015fmaya giri\u015fti:<\/p>\n<p>-Harun: Sizden, bir s\u00fcredir zihnimde dola\u015f\u0131p duran ve \u015fimdiye kadar hi\u00e7 kimseden sormad\u0131\u011f\u0131m baz\u0131 sorular\u0131 sormak istiyorum; bana, sizin hi\u00e7bir zaman yalan s\u00f6ylemedi\u011finizi dediler; o halde bana do\u011fru cevap verin!<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Beyan etme serbestli\u011fim olursa sorun konusunda bildi\u011fim s\u00f6ylerim.<br \/>\n-Harun: G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fc a\u00e7\u0131klama konusunda serbestsin; istedi\u011fin \u015feyi buyur\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Benim ilk sorum \u015fudur: Biz ve siz bir a\u011fac\u0131n g\u00f6vdesinden oldu\u011fumuz halde neden siz ve di\u011fer insanlar, Ebutalibo\u011fullar\u0131n\u0131n Abbas\u0131o\u011fullar\u0131ndan \u00fcst\u00fcn oldu\u011funa inan\u0131yorsunuz?<br \/>\nAbbas ve Ebutalib ikisi de Peygamberin amcalar\u0131yd\u0131 ve Peygamberle akrabal\u0131k a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131nda aralar\u0131nda hi\u00e7bir fark yoktur.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Biz Peygambere sizden daha yak\u0131n\u0131z.<br \/>\n-Harun: Nas\u0131l?<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc babam\u0131z Ebutalib Resul-i Ekrem\u2019in (s.a.a) babas\u0131yla bir anne ve babadand\u0131lar; fakat Abbas Peygamberin babas\u0131n\u0131n \u00fcvey karde\u015fiydi; (sadece anne taraf\u0131ndan karde\u015flerdi).<br \/>\n-Harun: Di\u011fer bir sorum ise \u015fudur: Neden siz Peygamberden miras da ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 iddia ediyorsunuz; oysa Resulullah (s.a.a) vefat edince amcas\u0131 Abbas (bizim babam\u0131z) hayattayd\u0131; fakat di\u011fer amcas\u0131 olan Ebutalib (Sizin baban\u0131z) \u00f6lm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc; ve a\u00e7\u0131kt\u0131r ki amca hayatta olduk\u00e7a miras amca o\u011fluna ula\u015fmaz?<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcm\u00fc a\u00e7\u0131klamada serbest miyim?<br \/>\n-Harun: Konu\u015fmam\u0131z\u0131n ba\u015f\u0131nda serbestsiniz demi\u015ftim.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): \u0130mam Ali b. Ebutalib (a.s) \u015f\u00f6yle buyuruyor: \u00c7ocuk oldu\u011fu zaman anne, baba, kar\u0131 ve kocadan ba\u015fkas\u0131 miras olmaz; insan\u0131n \u00e7ocu\u011fu oldu\u011fu zaman ne Kur\u2019an\u2019da ve ne de rivayetlerde amcan\u0131n miras ald\u0131\u011f\u0131 belirtilmemi\u015ftir. O halde amcay\u0131 baba gibi bilenler bunu kendi yanlar\u0131nsan s\u00f6yl\u00fcyorlar ve s\u00f6zlerinin bir dayana\u011f\u0131 yoktur (Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a) k\u0131z\u0131 Zehra olduk\u00e7a amcas\u0131 Abbas miras alamaz.)<br \/>\nAyr\u0131ca, Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a) Ali hakk\u0131nda (ALLAH\u2019\u0131n selam\u0131 onun \u00fczerine olsun) \u015f\u00f6yle buyurdu\u011fu rivayet edilmi\u015ftir: \u201cAli sizin en \u00fcst\u00fcn kad\u0131n\u0131zd\u0131r\u201d ve yine \u00d6mer b. Hattab\u2019tan \u015f\u00f6yle nakledilmi\u015ftir: \u201cAli h\u00fck\u00fcm verenlerin en iyisidir.\u201d<br \/>\nVe bu c\u00fcmle Hz. Ali (a.s) i\u00e7in ispatlanm\u0131\u015f olan kapsaml\u0131 bir s\u00f6zd\u00fcr; \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a), ashab\u0131n\u0131 kendileriyle \u00f6vd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc Kur\u2019an ilmi, ahkama ilmi, mutlak ilim gibi ilimlerin t\u00fcm\u00fc \u0130slam h\u00fckm\u00fc ve \u0130slam yarg\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n mana ve mefhumunda bir araya toplanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r; dolay\u0131s\u0131yla, \u201cAli h\u00fck\u00fcm vermeden herkesten \u00fcst\u00fcnd\u00fcr\u201d dedi\u011fimiz zaman, o hazretin b\u00fct\u00fcn ilimlerde di\u011ferlerinden \u00fcst\u00fcn oldu\u011funu kastetmi\u015f oluyoruz.<br \/>\n(O halde, Ali\u2019nin \u201cKi\u015finin \u00e7ocu\u011fu oldu\u011fu zaman amcas\u0131 ondan miras almaz\u201d \u015feklindeki buyru\u011fu bir delildir ve onu kabul etmemiz gerekiyor. Ali, \u201cAmca, baba h\u00fckm\u00fcndedir\u201d dememi\u015ftir; zira Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a) buyru\u011fu gere\u011fince Ali din h\u00fck\u00fcmlerini di\u011ferlerinden daha iyi biliyor.)<br \/>\n-Harun: Di\u011fer bir sorum da \u015fudur:<br \/>\nNeden halk\u0131n sizi Resulullah\u2019a intisap ederek, size, \u201cResulullah\u2019\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131\u201d demelerine izin veriyorsunuz; halbuki sizler Ali\u2019nin \u00e7ocuklar\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z; \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc herkes kendi babas\u0131na intisap eder (annesine de\u011fil); Resulullah ise sizin annenizin babas\u0131d\u0131r.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): E\u011fer Resulullah (s.a.a) hayatta olsayd\u0131 da senin k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131 isteseydi, k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131 ona verir miydin?<br \/>\n-Harun: Subhanellah; neden vermeyeyim; hatta bu durumda b\u00fct\u00fcn Araplara, Acemlere ve Kurey\u015f\u2019e kar\u015f\u0131 \u00f6v\u00fcn\u00fcrd\u00fcm bile.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Fakat Peygamber dirilseydi benim k\u0131z\u0131m\u0131 istemezdi ve ben de k\u0131z\u0131m\u0131 ona vermezdim.<br \/>\n-Harun: Neden?<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc o benim babamd\u0131r (anne taraf\u0131ndan olsa bile), fakat senin baban de\u011fildir.<br \/>\n(O halde ben Resulullah\u2019\u0131n \u00e7ocu\u011fu oldu\u011fumu s\u00f6yleyebilirim.)<br \/>\n-Harun: O halde neden siz kendinizi Resulullah\u2019\u0131n z\u00fcrriyeti (soyu) say\u0131yorsunuz; halbuki z\u00fcrriyet k\u0131zdan de\u011fil, o\u011fuldan s\u00fcrer gider.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Beni bu soruyu cevaplamaktan muaf g\u00f6r.<br \/>\n-Harun: Hay\u0131r; cevap vermek ve Kur\u2019an\u2019dan da delil getirmek zorundas\u0131n\u0131z\u2026<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): \u201c\u2026V e onun soyundan D\u00e2v\u00fbd\u2019a, S\u00fcleyman\u2019a, Eyy\u00fbb\u2019a, Y\u00fbsuf\u2019a, M\u00fbs\u00e2\u2019ya ve H\u00e2r\u00fbn\u2019a da yol g\u00f6stermi\u015ftik. Biz g\u00fczel davrananlar\u0131 b\u00f6yle \u00f6d\u00fcllendiririz. Zekeriyy\u00e2\u2019ya, Yahy\u00e2\u2019ya, \u00ces\u00e2 ve \u0130ly\u00e2s\u2019a da (yol g\u00f6stermi\u015ftik).\u201d[1]<br \/>\n\u015eimdi bu soruma cevap ver: Bu ayette \u0130sa \u0130brahim\u2019in soyu say\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r; acaba \u0130sa baba taraf\u0131ndan m\u0131 \u0130brahim\u2019e mensuptur anne taraf\u0131ndan m\u0131?<br \/>\n-Harun: Kur\u2019an\u2019\u0131n apa\u00e7\u0131k nass\u0131n\u0131 \u00fczerine \u0130sa\u2019n\u0131n babas\u0131 yoktu.<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): O halde anne taraf\u0131ndan onun soyu say\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r; biz de annemiz Fat\u0131ma \u2013ALLAH\u2019\u0131n selam\u0131 onun \u00fczerine olsun- taraf\u0131ndan Peygamber\u2019in (s.a.a) soyu say\u0131lmaktay\u0131z.<br \/>\nBu konuda ba\u015fka bir ayet de okuyay\u0131m m\u0131?<br \/>\n-Harun: Okuyun!<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Mubahele ayetini okuyaca\u011f\u0131m: \u201cKim sana gelen ilimden sonra seninle tart\u0131\u015fmaya kalkarsa, de ki: Gelin o\u011fullar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 ve o\u011fullar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131, kad\u0131nlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 ve kad\u0131nlar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131, kendimizi ve kendinizi \u00e7a\u011f\u0131ral\u0131m, sonra g\u00f6n\u00fclden la\u2019netle\u015felim de, All\u00e2h\u2019\u0131n la\u2019netini yalanc\u0131lar\u0131n \u00fcst\u00fcne atal\u0131m!\u201d [2]<br \/>\nHi\u00e7 kimse Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a) Necran H\u0131ristiyanlar\u0131yla mubahele yaparken mubahale i\u00e7in kendisiyle birlikte Ali, Fat\u0131ma, Hasan ve H\u00fcseyin\u2019den ba\u015fkas\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6t\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc iddia etmemi\u015ftir; o halde bu ayette \u201co\u011fullar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131\u201d kelimesinden maksat Hasan ve H\u00fcseyin\u2019dirler (ALLAH\u2019\u0131n selam\u0131 onlar\u0131n \u00fczerine olsun); halbuki onlar anne taraf\u0131ndan Peygambere intisap etmekteler ve Resulullah\u2019\u0131n (s.a.a) k\u0131z\u0131n\u0131n o\u011fullar\u0131d\u0131rlar.<br \/>\n-Harun: Bizden bir \u015fey istemiyor musunuz?<br \/>\n-\u0130mam (a.s): Hay\u0131r, evime d\u00f6nmek istiyorum.<br \/>\n-Harun: Bu konuyu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnmem gerek\u2026[3]<br \/>\n_________________<br \/>\n[1] \u2013 En\u2019am, 84.<br \/>\n[2] \u2013 \u00c2l-i \u0130mran, 61.<br \/>\n[3] \u2013 Uyun-u Ahbari\u2019r \u2013 R\u0131za, c. 1, s. 81, Kum bas\u0131m\u0131; \u0130hticac-i Tabers\u00ee, Necef \u2013 Ta\u015f bask\u0131s\u0131, s. 211 \u2013 213; Biharu\u2019l \u2013 Envar, c. 48, s. 125 \u2013 129.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130MAM MUSA KAZIM(AS)\u2019IN M\u00dcNAZARA VE \u0130LM\u0130 TARTI\u015eMALARI Y\u00fcce Ehl-i Beyt \u0130mamlar\u0131 aleyhimusselam ilah\u00ee ilimleriyle kendilerinden sorulan her soruya do\u011fru, tam ve soran ki\u015finin anlayaca\u011f\u0131 \u015fekilde cevap veriyorlard\u0131. Herkes ve hatta d\u00fc\u015fmanlar bile onlarla ilmi tart\u0131\u015fmalara girselerdi kendi acizliklerini ve o y\u00fcce ki\u015filerin geni\u015f ve kapsaml\u0131 ilimlerini itiraf ediyorlard\u0131. Harun Re\u015fid, \u0130mam\u2019\u0131 (a.s) Medine\u2019den Ba\u011fdat\u2019a getirerek &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2169,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[19,585,123,669,1315,1692,1564,1691,31,27,979,1694,1693,753,1566],"class_list":["post-2443","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-yazilar","tag-asura","tag-davet","tag-ehl-i-beyt","tag-ehl-i-beyt-as","tag-ehl-i-beyt-imamlari","tag-imam-musa","tag-imam-musa-kazimas","tag-imam-musa-kazimasin-munazara-ve-ilmi-tartismalari","tag-islami-davet","tag-kerbela","tag-kuran","tag-munazara","tag-munazara-ve-ilmi-tartismalari","tag-musa","tag-musa-kazimas"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"\u0130MAM MUSA KAZIM(AS)\u2019IN M\u00dcNAZARA VE \u0130LM\u0130 TARTI\u015eMALARI Y\u00fcce Ehl-i Beyt \u0130mamlar\u0131 aleyhimusselam ilah\u00ee ilimleriyle kendilerinden sorulan her soruya do\u011fru, tam ve soran ki\u015finin anlayaca\u011f\u0131 \u015fekilde cevap veriyorlard\u0131. 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